Showing posts with label Crime. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Crime. Show all posts

Saturday, January 3, 2009

Bank bombings, a right wing epidemic?

 

Deafening Silence posted this entry comparing the Woodburn bombing suspects with the Aspen suspect.

 

A particular section:

 

Not long after that, a liberal website discovered photos that were said to be Joshua Turnidge's girlfriend posing with an automatic weapon.  He had to be a right-wing gun nut, it said.  No doubt a Republican who learned bomb construction by attending gun shows.  Obviously a Neo-Nazi.  They're the ones who form violent militias, aren't they?

 

I've also had some 'conversations' with others who claim, in all seriousness, that Josh Turnridge's Iron cross tattoo, picture of his girlfriend with a rifle, and the family's financial donations to the GOP all add up to them being neo-nazi, gun nut, right-wing anti-government types.

 

That's reaching a bit.

Sunday, December 28, 2008

Great Quote

"Anyone who can't be trusted with a gun can't be trusted without a custodian."

David Codrea - A wanted man and 'a true success story'

Cleveland Gun Rights Examiner

 

 

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Saturday, December 20, 2008

Pictures that speak for themselves

TENNANT FUNERAL


TENNANT FUNERAL
Pictures from yesterdays funeral for Woodburn Police Capt. Tom Tennant
 
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Thursday, December 18, 2008

Details from Trauma Surgeon on Woodburn Bombing Victims

 

 

First is this from a local TV station;

 

Doctor: Injuries in Woodburn bank bombing like those seen in Iraq

 

There is some speculation in the story about whether the explosive is high order or low order.

 

As I posted several days ago;

 

Other information I've received leads me to believe that this was a fairly powerful explosive, based upon the description of the injuries

 

This seemed to be confirmed today with the release of the probable cause statement for Bruce Turnidge's arrest.

 

 

Officers found two tubes of Tovex, an explosive slurry, and a blasting cap.

 

Tovex is a high order explosive with a detonation velocity of about 4,000 to 5,500 mps.  That is about the same detonation velocity as ANFO, (diesel/fertilizer) but with a better density.

 

The second link;

 

A blog entry from the surgeon who worked on the Police Chief

 

No comment on this

 

 

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Tuesday, December 16, 2008

Woodburn Bank Bombing - Reported Here First

Court documents today confirmed details reported here two days ago. 

 

Court document: Bomb expert thought explosive was fake

 

...Authorities mistakenly believed the bomb that detonated at the Woodburn West Coast Bank on Friday was a hoax device that could be moved and taken apart inside the bank...

...Instead, the device detonated, dismembering and killing both Oregon State Police bomb technician William Hakim and Woodburn Police Capt. Tom Tennant. Woodburn Police Chief Scott Russell sustained critical injuries, including the loss of his right leg below the knee....

 

Unfortunately, nobody was here to read it.

 

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Monday, December 15, 2008

Woodburn Bombing New Info

 

I've received some information that I consider pretty reliable.  The story I'm hearing is that the officers scanned the device outside, and determined to to be non-harmful.  The device, a briefcase, was then brought into the bank to determine who the owner was.  It was at this point that it detonated.

 

Other information I've received leads me to believe that this was a fairly powerful explosive, based upon the description of the injuries (which I won't relate here.)

 

The last bit of info is a confirmation that the chief of police did indeed lose a leg (as I reported earlier) and is battling to save the other leg.

 

Will update as new information arrives.

 

 

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Friday, December 12, 2008

Bomb explodes at Woodburn bank, kills at least one

WOODBURN -- A bomb exploded at a West Coast Bank branch in Woodburn Friday, killing at least one person, and injuring at least two others.

The bomb detonated late afternoon around 5:45 p.m. at the bank in the 2500 block of Newberg Highway.

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A Marion County deputy medical examiner said he was en route to the scene, saying that he was told of at least one fatality. He added that police were concerned about a secondary device in the area.

The bank had been evacuated before the bomb detonated, according to West Coast Bank chief executive Robert Sznewajs. The branch has been there for at least 10 years, he said.

He said two employees sustained some injuries, but not life-threatening. But the blast caused serious injuries to an unspecified number of officers, according to an Oregon State Police release. The ATF said it knew of one bomb technician who had been injured.

Oregon State Police Lt. Gregg Hastings declined to provide much detail. But earlier in the day, an Oregon State Police bomb technician, the FBI and Woodburn Police were investigating a suspicious device at West Coast Bank.

The Woodburn Independent is reporting that that all houses to the south Oregon Way and Evergreen Avenue are being evacuated and U.S. Bank is also being evacuated.

FBI spokesman Jane Brillhart has been confirmed there are injuries, however, the extent of those injuries is not known at this time, the newspaper said.

This bank is close to the Wells Fargo Bank, where earlier in the day the FBI, Oregon State Police and the Woodburn Police Department were investigating a suspicious package, the newspaper said.

However, Brillhart said there was no explosive device at the Wells Fargo Bank, which is located at 2600 Newberg Hwy. Brillhart could not comment further on the West Coast Bank blast as FBI investigators are en route. A spokesman for the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives said the agency had also dispatched a team to the scene.

Sznewajs, of West Coast Bank, said he believed a second call specific to West Coast Bank came in after the Wells Fargo search. Officers checked the property and found something in the bushes, he said.

The sudden blast shook up area residents.

"It sounded like somebody tossing a Dumpster off a three-story building," said Jan Olson, who was smoking on her deck in the nearby Evergreen Estates apartment complex.

Jasmine Colombo, 13, said the blast rattled her apartment complex.

"The lights flickered and we felt the building shake"

 

 

I live about a dozen blocks from this bank.  As I posted earlier I was in the area (even closer than my house) not two hours before the blast.  I even heard it go off.  But I'm not close enough for it to piqued my interest that much.

 

A couple of thoughts though.  Not that I want to second guess or armchair quarterback the officers, but...

 

I can't help but wonder why they would move the device into the bank, if those reports are correct.

 

If it is a live device, moving it isn't a good idea.  Further, moving a live device into a contained area, other than a purpose built bomb container, isn't a good idea either. And if you're going to violate those two bad ideas, the last thing you want to do is put people into the same contained area as the live device. A blast that would be survivable outside and un-contained can be lethal in a confined space.

 

Update

 

Local TV news said the Woodburn chief of police is at OHSU hospital in critical condition.  I've also got unconfirmed reports that three officers have been fatally injured.

 

Update 23:00

 

Confirmed on TV news. Woodburn police officer fatally injured, Woodburn Chief of police in Critical condition, Oregon State Police bomb Technician injured.

 

Area still blocked off, police say they are looking for more devices.  Houses evacuated for area for six blocks.

 

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Update

At least three injured

 

ATF bomb tech seriously injured.

 

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Bomb at the Bank

Live as it happens

West Coast Bank Blast

Looks like there's an injured bomb tech, hope he's alright.  I've done some study on IED's, met some tech's. Brave people, cool as ice, not a job I'd volunteer for.

 

I had lunch and went to the bank (different one) across the street from this not two hours before the blast.  Now there's helicopters all over the place.  Most active this place has been since I moved here.

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